Patrik Popp's Testimony
When Russian army occupied
my country - Czechoslovakia, I run away to Sweden so I would not have to live
under communist dictatorship again.
At that time I did not believe in God, but my God was science in which I
believed.
There I had a friend who worked as a scientist in a group investigating
elementary particles.
Sometimes he took me with him , so I could see how they do experiments. After
experiment those scientists would meet in cafe shop to discuss those experiments
and conclusion that could be done. When I asked them about the reason for some
things which were impossible to happen and yet they did happen ( for ex.
Particle that had passed energy barrier which they can not pass). On my question
how could this happen, they answered that there is a spiritual world, and God
interacting with physical universe. I was surprised to hear they believe in God,
and since I always loved adventure, diving, traveling - learning and
experiencing new things I thought it would be great to be able experience those
spiritual worlds too.
Sometimes I went with my mother to Catholic church, not because I was a
Christian, but because it was a sort of cultural thing, and Czech emigrants
would meet each other there and talk after preaching. From my visits of Church I
got an impression that Christians only talk about those spiritual things but
that they experience nothing and they said after you are dead first than you
will see and experience that what they talk about.
That was not anything for me.
But when some Indian guru arrived to our town promising that he can show us God,
that we will hear God and experience his presence, that was something different!
I went for this and let myself to be initiated. I did see some supernatural
light and heard some noise, which they said was God. Even if there was no
evidence that this should be God, yet at lest I experienced something
supernatural there while all Christians I met with before, were only talking and
there was no supernatural sign at all that they would be connected with
supernatural God, while all disciples of Jesus did experience and perform
supernatural acts, so I thought that I am on right way to God but Christians are
not.
After some 10 years I could see some negative changes on my friends with whom we
did those Hindu or Buddhist meditations.
Some of them started to be a sort of apathetic and some started to be on
contrary explosive angry for even smallest thing their girlfriends or wife’s
would say. Soon some of them ended up with meditation psychosis in mental
hospital, one girl made suicide.
A girl whom I brought myself to this meditation was sitting one day in her
kitchen when she saw how walls and ceiling were coming on her to crash her and
heard voice of guru talking to her.
She was clever enough to understand that “meditation psychoses“ is spiritual
thing which needs spiritual cure, so she run to the ecumenical bible school in
our town Göteborg and after Christians prayed to Jesus and laid hands on her she
got completely free.
When I met her she told me, she have seen how Jesus was healing sick people who
would come there on crutches and many other miracles. I went to this bible
school to check it out.
My biggest need was that I was longing for God and wanted to have some encounter
with Him. The second need was that after an encounter with a car on icy road I
had very complicated fracture of knee which doctors operated for two hours, they
told me there is nothing more that can be done with it, but I had to avoid some
sports and be carefully. Problem was that it was getting worse and worse each
year.
When I got to the bible school , Preacher said that Jesus died to take on
himself our sins and also our sicknesses so those of us who were sick or had
pain should go forward so they will lay hands on us and pray to Jesus so He will
heal us. I went forward and they laid hands on me without asking what is wrong
with me and prayed with strange languages. I asked Jesus to heal my knee and
felt some sort of weak vibration in whole leg. After this my knee was healed.
This was a proof that our guru did not have so much insight in spiritual world
as he pretended, since he was saying to us that Jesus is dead and therefore He
can not help us any more, but here I have asked Jesus in Czech language to heal
my knee ( so even this Swedish pastor who prayed for me did not know what my
need was ) and Jesus answered by healing me.
Even if I found out that not only is Jesus alive but there is a way to
experience His power and presence, I still did not want to give up meditation.
The director of bible school told me that meditation is from devil, which I did
not believe him, but he said also that those two powers which I experienced in
meditation and in bible school are of opposite nature. That was something I had
to think about, since when I tried to do meditation after Jesus healed my knee,
I did experience some sort of conflict. Since I decided that I will get
everything what those Christians have and experience , either everything or
nothing ( to come only once in week to church say some prayer and not
experiencing anything, have no power of God only theology was not for me), I
decided I will had better to check whether they are not right by stopping
meditation for 20 days, then starting again and see if there will be any
difference.
After 12 days of no meditation I did not want to wait longer anymore, did
meditation and got out of my body to some sort of world where big balls of light
were trying to crash me and I felt terrible presence of evil. I wanted to get
out of there, but I could not, and in this moment I remembered an article from
daily newspaper written by doctor from mental hospital who was describing
meditation psychoses. He wrote that apart of those meditation psychoses that my
friends had, there are also such, when patient is laying as dead for months and
years and does not respond any more. I understood this will has happened to me,
and that my body will end up in some mental hospital, but I would stay in this
horrible place. So I started to shout Jesus, Jesus take me out of here. After a
second I was sort of sucked back to my body and after this I did not touch
meditation any more.
Later on I met Satan worshiper who needed to be free, and Jesus sat him free,
who told me that those meditation techniques and opening of third aye is also
what devil is teaching, to get them possessed by demons . Esoteric masters from
New Age are also planning to give power to a dictator who will rule in whole
world just as bible says in Revelation describing antichrist.
I wanted to help the people the way those pastors do, who prayed for me with
power from Jesus, so I asked how they got this power. They told me it was when
they were baptized with Holy Spirit. So when ever some preacher said he will
pray for those who want to be baptized in Holy Spirit , I run forward, they
prayed for me and nothing would happen. First after several months and many
prayers one servant prayed for me and I felt as if some ball of fear was coming
up from my stomach to my month and she said now you got it, and reason why it
was so difficult for me to be baptized was that all the dirt from meditation had
to get out of me first.
Already next day when I prayed for my friends Jesus was healing them.
I started to go to Church where we had a pastor whom God has used even for
healing cancer. After each preaching he would call those who were sick, or
needed any prayer forward and prayed for them. With youth pastor from our Church
and also some youth from other Churches we started to go among criminals and
drug addicts in places where drugs were sold, and Jesus was there doing
miracles, and healing, saving them. Those people were not interested to listen
to us in the beginning, they were even aggressive, but when they have seen Gods
power in action, it was quite different. Prostitutes who were beating our girls
in the beginning were later on almost fighting between each other, because each
wanted us to pray for her first.
They have seen that our God is living God by those healings He did among them.
Than I took my 21foot sailing boat and sailed to Canary Island to preach among
hippies who lived there in caves and were deep in New Age , occult and drugs.
Soon the group of saved people was formed since Jesus showed them with his Power
(not only my words) that He is relay alive.
After about one year I run out of money so I went home to earn some more, so I
could serve God again among those hippies. At this time communism fell in
Czechoslovakia, so I sold boat on Canary Island, and with that money I went to
Prague to serve God there.
In Prague I met people from Harvest International who were traveling around in
old buses with circus tent preaching and praying for sick, so I went with them
for some years . We have seen thousands and thousands of people to come to Jesus
and to be healed. Gods power was so strong there, that when I saw some person
who could not walk properly or move hands, I was glad that people in tent will
see Gods Healing power in action, since majority of those people Jesus healed
completely or they got considerably better.( In west only few people were
healed, not majority) Than some business man paid me to go with them to
Thailand, to translate business. I stayed there for several months and could do
evangelisation with local pastors or preach in the church, since business took
only few hours in week. Then I got invitation to be a pastor and also invitation
by US missionary to work with him with boat ministry which I preferred most. I
told them I would need a wife to live in Thailand permanently so I went back to
Czech republic to get one. When I came to Prague I asked God to send me a wife
to Methodist Church, which I planed to visit on Sunday. On Sunday I went to
Church and at the tram station I saw a nice girl with beautiful ayes. So I told
God I would like a girl like that, and also to give me courage to talk to her.
He gave me courage so I gave her Christian tractate and invited her to that
Methodist Church behind the corner where I was on way to. She told me , she is
also going to that Church, she is only waiting for her father. She came to
Church, gave me her address, 3days later I asked her if she would mind living on
sailing boat or in the simple hut in jungle, and she said she would love it,
therefore I asked her to marry me and she said yes. 3weeks after I met her, we
got married when my pastor Gösta Öman come to Prague. I think it is normally
much better when people know each other longer time before they get married, but
I wanted to get back to Thailand soon. First long time after that, she admitted
that she was praying to God same week as I did, telling Him that she does not
want to be alone any more, asking Him to send her a husband who is older than
she and who likes adventure a lot, to that Methodist Church ( where she normally
does not go - and neither did I) that Sunday.
Back in Thailand we were happy to see how God was doing His miracles and saving
people.
Once we were for example asked to pray for an old man who fell from a high mango
tree and broke his back so he could not walk and doctors said they can not do
anything for him anymore. We prayed to Jesus for whom there are no hopeless
cases, and next day he told his doughtier that in the dream he heard a voice
telling him he is healed now and can go to WC by himself, but he was arguing
that he can not walk. When he woke up, he went to WC by himself and his
doughtier said he is not so much surprised that Jesus healed him, but what
surprised him very much was that God of foreigners can speak so perfectly Thai
language.
After about one year we came back to Czech because my wife got pregnant and we
did not have money for delivery in Thailand.
Now we are living in Czech republic, but not in Prague any more since we were
flooded away from there 2 years ago. We have 2children, 9 years and 1,5 years
old.
Patrik